Posts Tagged "Liberal Democrat Party"

Anti-BNP Demonstration at BRLSI Meeting

Further to my previous posts here and here regarding the controversial decision to invite the BNP to speak at a debate on the European Elections of June 4th 2009, this is my account of what occured at the meeting.

Arriving at about 1830 (I had aimed to get there at 1800, but the bus hit a very expensive looking-car half way down Bathwick Hill, so we decided to walk), there were dozens of protesters from various different groups, including the Bath Activist Network, Unite, Bath Labour Students, Bath LGBT group, the various political parties, a group whom I suppose were “Anarchists” and some people who probably didn’t know what was going on.

For about 30 minutes everything remained reasonably calm as cars passed by and occaisionally beeped their horns, greeted by a return cheer from protesters. Doors opened a little after 1900 and by 1913 things started to kick off.

As punters arrived and attempted to enter the public meeting, a few of the Anarchists (with the black hoodies and scarves over their faces) sat at the top of the stairs to block people in. An elederly gentleman tried reasoned argument about democracy and freedom of speech and so on, but it fell on tin, hoodied ears. He tried to step over the teenagers but was tripped up. Eventually he managed to get in.

At this point, a few punters were able to hop over the line as they followed a policemen in. This could not have been more than ten or so, before more protesters began to copy the television and linked arms, blocking the steps as seen here:

By 1923, the entrance was totally blocked with only of handful of police around. Soon after, a group of BNP members arrived, most of whom conformed to the stereotype of big, shaven-headed types. Albeit in ugly suits. It was sad to see a few young teenagers who probably weren’t into being shouted at, but I didn’t really stop to chat.

At 1945, traffic was stopped completely and a second wave of police arrvied, numbering about ten. There was a lull while people waited for something to happen. The police put on their helmets. The speaker from one of the fringe parties (I understand the member ship was 2) made an empassioned speech that bemused the crowd.

A large police van pulled up at 2004 and a “senior police officer” proceeded to read a statement to the blockade claiming that the meeting was cancelled. (Image below).

The police, numbering about 25, formed a circular barrier around the entrance to clear a space. One by one, the protesters were peeled off from the blockade at 2023. (Image below) Most of them came quietly, and were ‘released into the wild’ with everbody else. A few of them decided to put up a bit of a struggle, but the police carried them out.

Though there were cries of “pigs” and “fascists” and other insults (like what they saw covered by the G20 protests) directed towards the police, I think it’s worth pointing out that the Bath Police did a really good job at what was clearly a very difficult situation. They weren’t equipped for dealing with crwods and it seemed like nobody was sure what to do, but in my opinion it was handled very well.

As the BNP group was admitted, at 2031, it became apparant that the meeting was not really going to happen. Ricky Knight from the Green Party took the stage by shouting face-to-face at the BNP candidate, there was chanting of “Shame on you” (presumably they were unaware of Al Murray’s comedy catchphrase)  seen in this video:

By 2040, Liberal Democrat Graham Watson MEP was fed up and went home. Inside the building, the speaker sfrom the BNP and the English Democrats were ready to speak. A vote was taken and it was decided that they would be permitted to give their speech.

Back outside, somebody had got hold of a megaphone and was passing it around as every randomer suddenly had something to say”Um, er, you know. Fascism is bad.”  Next.  I was waited patiently for my turn. It didn’t come. Glyn Ford got to the mic to explain his position. Here he is talking about Jean-Marie Le Pen:

At 2048, the few people inside, now including Libertas, began to speak, though the crowd was mostly BNP. There were no questions. The protesters didn’t know this (I had a friend on the inside) and left as it got dark , probably time for dinner anyway.

Some police dispersed and traffice was reopened at 2051. Only a few people stayed behind and a group of policemen stayed around the door.

So, by way of a conclusion: Sadly, democracy was obstructed. Glyn Ford specfically said that although he was taking a ‘No Platform’ stance, he was no there to prevent the meeting from taking place, but the various other groups didn’t take this line. I don’t know what the teenagers thought they were doing, but it didn’t work anyway.

The BNP spoke, which some of the protesters tried to stop (and failed) and it was another own-goal for them because now there was nobody inside to listen and challenge them.

In my opinion, though I think it’s good there were so many demonstraters around from very diverse organisations, it was wrong to stop the meeting. I can totally understand why people operate a “No Platform Policy” but I, like many others, prefer to challenge and question. Chances are they’re damned out of their own mouth anyway.

All very messy.

Update: BNP back in Bath

There have been some changes to the BRLSI event regarding the hustings for the European Elections.

In light of the wave of walkouts lead by Labour’s Glyn Ford MEP, followed by Lib Dem Graham Watson MEP and Green Party Ricky Knight who all refused to share a platform with the British National Party candidate Jeremy Wotherspoon.

Conservative Dan Collier then jumped on the bandwagon. As a result of the boycott of the all three major parties, the format of the event has changed from a typical panel debate to that of a “job interview”.

Graham Watson MEP of the Lib Dems, while understandably (and respectably) keen to debate, quickly changed his position, justifying the U-turn with a cop-out; “I only said I wouldn’t share a platform with a BNP representative.”

The Conservatives are now are “considering [their] options in light of the changing circumstances” and the Green Party candidate has said that “It seams a very surreal compromise, and I am not really sure what action we will be taking.”

Glyn Ford has remained result, stating that “”It is vital to mobilise people to combat the threat of the British National Party. Unfortunately, we are in a position in the South West, which could well see a member of the BNP being elected to the European Parliament in the elections on 4 June this year.”

Far-Right French MEP, Jean-Marie Le Pen, of the Front National (You might call it the French BNP) has previously described Glyn Ford as “one of the seven most dangerous left-wing men in Europe.”

Also on the ballot will be Katie Hopkins “the really evil one from The Apprentice” who is running as an Independent.

I was invited to a Facebook group recently called “Students voting against the BNP on the 4th of June”. I declined to join, as I will not be voting against anybody, I will be voting for someone. I’m sure I don’t need to tell you who.

BNP back in Bath

Glyn Ford, Labour MEP for the South West, came to Bath yesterday and told me an interesting story about a debate due to happen in Bath.

Hattie and Glyn

Glyn Ford MEP and Hattie Ajderian, Labour PPC for Bath.

It seems that Unlock Democracy (formerly Charter 88) has been organising a Hustings Session at the BRLSI on May 22nd in time for the European Parliament elections.

The Labour, Conservative and Lib Dem parties are planning to meet together to discuss how to handle the BNP but in the meantime, the Labour Party has a strict No Platform Policy when it comes to the BNP. It has to be said that in principle I don’t like “No Platform” policies, but I also don’t think there’s much point in debating with the likes of the BNP. UKIP and the Tories are a laugh, but the BNP is a joke.

As a result, Glyn Ford MEP and all the other Labour Candidates have refused to participate. There has been no concern from the Tories on the matter yet.

Unlock Democracy has put considerable pressure on Labour over the matter, but Glyn Ford who is the national Treasurer for the Anti-Nazi League and a member of Unite Against Fascism’s steering committee said he would be happy to debate against other parties, including UKIP, if the BNP were not present.

In fact, Glyn Ford then challenged the Liberal Democrats to pull out, which they have done, and the Green Party likewise. Though Lib Dem Graham Watson apparently asked to sit in the audience as a candidate! Glyn Ford might be outside with a small anti-fascist protest group.

Based on the problems we had last time the BNP were in Bath, I hope the police will be notified. Good on Glyn for taking a stand too.

So the debate is currently between the Conservatives, the BNP and UKIP.

Spoilt for choice.