Am I talking Balls or is he talking me?
Ed Balls, one of the Labour Leadership contenders, has published an article on his website (here) in which he talks about a few traps the Labour Party should avoid. A week is a long time in politics, apparently long enough to forget my Countering the Coalition series.
Obviously, I’m not claiming to have a monopoly on ideas, but see if you can spot the difference.
Balls:
First, we risk falling into Mr Cameron’s trap by focusing our fire too much on the Liberal Democrats.
Roberts:
It is lots of fun and easy to do, but the Labour Party needs to be disciplined enough to resist attacking the Lib Dems over the betrayal of their voters.
Balls:
Yes, they have ditched their manifesto and sold their principles for power —
Roberts:
If Labour lost its soul during its period in office, the Lib Dems have sold theirs for a few ministerial cars (which Cameron then took away).

Copying some other kid’s homework.
Balls:
Even if Lib Dem ministers are wheeled out by Downing Street to defend the most unpopular decisions, we must not forget this is fundamentally a Conservative Government.
Roberts:
You can be sure that when things are going well a Conservative will represent the government but when it gets tough, they will wheel out a hapless Lib Dem fall guy.
It is thus appropriate to treat the Coalition not as something strange but as something that is all too familiar; this is a Tory Government in all but name. It is up to Labour to call it as it is.
Balls:
There is no doubt that Mr Cameron wants to use his alliance with the Liberal Democrats to achieve what he failed in opposition — to detoxify the Conservative brand in the public mind. At its heart, this will remain a neo-liberal government of the Right, but Mr Cameron will seek to present the coalition as dominating the centre ground, while caricaturing Labour as irrelevant, reactionary and retreating to the left.
Roberts:
Repeatedly, the Tories have taken advantage of the Lib Dems who are hopelessly out of their depth and essentially benign in that the Tories are winning the internal arguments so easily. On the Economy, on Foreign Policy, on Europe, on Health, Immigration, Families and more the Tories get their way, and that is just the original coalition agreement.
Ultimately, we have to keep in mind that the Lib Dems are just there to make up the numbers on the Tory backbenches. We should therefore show them up as what they are: useful idiots.
So, sound advice from Ed, and I’m glad we’re in agreement (apart from the Graduate Tax) but there is a reason I have a Referencing page!
It looks like Balls is talking complete and utter Roberts.



August 3rd, 2010 at 1:14 am
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August 3rd, 2010 at 2:00 am
Confronting the coalition, and the dynamic of the Lib-Tory relationship, is near the top of every Labourite's agenda right now. It's hardly surprising that two articles were written on the subject in such short succession. To accuse Ed Balls of plagiarizing your article- as I gather is your intention- is a very serious charge. The passages you present, while vaguely similar in conceit, are written with a manifestly different style, tone, and (despite some scarce overlap) vocabulary. A reasonable person would easily surmise that they were written in isolation from one another.
Moreover, Ed was- before my time- a well-respected journalist for the Financial Times, and a prolific writer for the Fabian Review. While you are doubtless a talent in your own right, and while Ed has since moved on from full-time writing, it frankly comes across as arrogant in the extreme to accuse him of plagarizing your work, with little if any evidence to back up your claims. You flatter yourself, sir.
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Hadleigh Roberts Reply:
August 3rd, 2010 at 5:09 pm
I appreciate your comment John ; I notice your a big Balls fan (got the twibbon and everything) so I'll forgive your sense of humour failure on this one. Obviously I'm not seriously accusing him of plagiarism.
Thanks for your kind words about my writing style as well, but I think you'll need to read a little bit more from me so you don't misinterpret my tone like that again, however, I do understand that I'd be equally sensitive if someone made a joke about my preferred candidate (I don't have one though), yet I'd add that as a Balls fan, surely you must all be used to the wordplay!
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Chris Reply:
August 3rd, 2010 at 5:17 pm
I hardly think Hadleigh is suggesting such plagiarism, he appears to be pointing out the similarities between what he has written and what Ed Balls has written. In essence it's a comparison of thoughts proving they are having the same thoughts. To lay out charges of arrogance is a slight over reaction. At not one point in the article are such claims made and what you 'gather is Hadleigh's intention' is in itself arrogance on your part to suggest and presume that you can second guess this. Perhaps it is you that flatters yourself.
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Hadleigh Roberts Reply:
August 3rd, 2010 at 5:09 pm
I appreciate your comment John ; I notice your a big Balls fan (got the twibbon and everything) so I'll forgive your sense of humour failure on this one. Obviously I'm not seriously accusing him of plagiarism.
Thanks for your kind words about my writing style as well, but I think you'll need to read a little bit more from me so you don't misinterpret my tone like that again, however, I do understand that I'd be equally sensitive if someone made a joke about my preferred candidate (I don't have one though), yet I'd add that as a Balls fan, surely you must all be used to the wordplay!
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Chris Reply:
August 3rd, 2010 at 5:17 pm
I hardly think Hadleigh is suggesting such plagiarism, he appears to be pointing out the similarities between what he has written and what Ed Balls has written. In essence it's a comparison of thoughts proving they are having the same thoughts. To lay out charges of arrogance is a slight over reaction. At not one point in the article are such claims made and what you 'gather is Hadleigh's intention' is in itself arrogance on your part to suggest and presume that you can second guess this. Perhaps it is you that flatters yourself.
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August 7th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
And now he's screening out comments by those who dare disagree with him. Hadleigh Roberts clearly brooks no criticism, the first step towards suppression of dissent.
C'est du m'as-tu-vu, purement et simplement;
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August 26th, 2010 at 10:23 pm
Yo Hadleigh, great minds think alike. Love both of you but stop the lectures on Lib Dem baiting. It's good sport for low level partisans like me. When we have our new leader setting out clear strategy for opposing the Tories we'll follow it. For now let us get on with giving Clegg a good kicking.
Take care.
T+T
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August 26th, 2010 at 10:57 pm
Yo Hadleigh, great minds think alike. Love both of you but stop the lectures on Lib Dem baiting. It's good sport for low level partisans like me. When we have our new leader setting out clear strategy for opposing the Tories we'll follow it. For now let us get on with giving Clegg a good kicking.
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